NICK ELWARD: Last year, Tyler, we saw 1,000 new ETF launches, which was a record. And this year so far, we're on pace to beat that record. Of that 1,000 and the large number so far this year, about 80% are actively managed ETFs. If you look at active ETFs in terms of what they represent for the overall ETF market, it's about 12% of assets, but they're accounting for about a third of the flows.
And this year, fixed income is a big part of that. If you look at the actively managed fixed income flows, that's about 50% of all fixed income flows in ETFs.
TYLER WILLIAMS: It's a big number. Wow.
TYLER WILLIAMS: Sure fixed income is actually one of the best use cases for active managers and for a few reasons. One, the typical benchmark that most active strategies are benchmarked to. The Bloomberg Aggregate bond index, only covers about half the bond market and misses out on those plus sectors that include high yield, non-agency MBS, and parts of the securitized space. So the index itself only captures a smaller portion of the whole universe, and the way it's weighted is flawed by design. It's weighted by issuance. So the biggest borrowers get the biggest weights, not optimized for risk, liquidity, or value.
So for an active manager, especially within that core plus and multisector space, they can go beyond the index to drive yield, diversification, and flexibility. There's clear alpha levers between sector rotation, curve positioning, and underlying security selection, especially in less efficient markets.
NICK ELWARD: But also, if I look at what financial advisors, investors, and institutions are talking about and where they're putting their money, it definitely seems to be the trend for the next 12 months. I look at one other element that we haven't talked about, and that's fees. If you look at the fees of active fixed income ETFs, they're getting extremely attractive and competitive. And I think that's one of the drivers that's moving more financial advisors and other investors into active fixed income.
TYLER WILLIAMS: Sure, Yeah, very important for implementation, not just the strategy, but how to actually get into the strategy. For ETFs in general, not just fixed income but all ETFs, you have to rethink liquidity. It's not driven as much by on screen volume that you might see or even the AUM of an ETF but more on that underlying portfolio liquidity, which is kind of why the capacity might be actually much deeper than it looks on the surface.
For clients that want to trade on screen for smaller orders, recommend that they avoid the open and close when there might be more dislocations in price and use limit orders to protect their ultimate execution price as opposed to market orders. For larger orders, firms like Natixis that have ETF cap markets desk, can be very helpful to guide investors as to what order type might make the most sense, and we can work with our underlying market makers and liquidity providers to provide a fair price during the day.